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 on: Sunday, 01, August, 2010, 01:58:18 PM 
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I have just received an email from admin @ esotericbydesign . org and I am a little concerned because it coincides with the recent server problems which have caused some forum connectivity issues and I'm hoping my hosting account hasn't been hacked.

I hope nobody else has been bothered by spam from this site and if they have I apologise and promise to do everything I can to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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 on: Friday, 30, July, 2010, 01:32:14 AM 
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I apologise for the recent problems some people have experienced in accessing the Esoteric by Design forum. I suppose servers can crash regardless of the price you're paying for web hosting, however, in the past 12 months, 000webhost have provided a superb service and it hasn't cost me a bean. In fact, I would not hesitate in highly recommending 000webhost to anyone looking for free web hosting.

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 on: Wednesday, 28, July, 2010, 02:28:14 PM 
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Introducing  Tinto



Here's a picture of Tinto, he/she is the largest of Mike and Kylie's 1st lot of babies, born on the 10th February 2010.

He might have lopsided gill branches, but he's a beauty.
He's about 10cm long and his head is about the size of my thumb

I still have some of his smaller siblings for sale. If you are interested I can be contacted HERE


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 on: Friday, 16, July, 2010, 02:31:19 PM 
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Here's a warning for anyone that ever thought their axolotls would be fine with gravel or small stones as a substrate in their tank.

Check out the "Large rock in belly!" thread from the caudata.org forum.















Thankfully, Kuphie, Shamrock's owner managed to save her life. Many thanks to Kuphie for allowing me to use pictures of Shamrock here and for sharing her remarkable story.

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 on: Thursday, 10, June, 2010, 12:19:58 PM 
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Here are some pictures taken today of the golden albino babies at exactly 4 months old. My photography skills are sadly lacking and my camera is very old but You get the general idea.  They are now measuringin at between 4 and 5cm in length and they're all happily eating frozen bloodworm now.







































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 on: Thursday, 10, June, 2010, 03:58:07 AM 
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The History of the house of Stanley, From the Conquest, to the Death of the Right Honorable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776.


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 on: Friday, 04, June, 2010, 06:14:32 AM 
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100 Songs To Feed The Soul

Sometimes, during those long summer nights, when there's no work in the morning and the kids are in bed and the lights are low and silence reigns, I like to relax and listen to some tunes.  

I've called this collection, "100 Songs To Feed The Soul" because, in their own way, each song that follows does seem to nourish and enrich me with its ability to provoke an emotional response. Each of these songs manages to touch me in ways I cannot begin to describe. It could be the lyric, or just a single line of the lyric that reaches me. It could be a short saxophone solo that resonates long after the song has finished or a simple drum beat that stirs something deep within me.


Quote
From Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, 1602:

DUKE ORSINO:
If music be the food of love, play on;
Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting,
The appetite may sicken, and so die.



Duke Orsino believes an excess of music, will remove his appetite for love in the same way that an excess of cashew nuts would eventually remove my appetite for food. However, it's my belief that music is food for the soul and fortunately the soul has an insatiable appetite. Welcome to my feast. Gorge yourselves my friends and if you have any comments, go HERE


Play On


Phil Collins - If Leaving Me Is Easy

I read all the letters,
I read each word that you've sent to me.
And though it's past now,
And your words start to fade.
All the memories I have still remain.
I've kept all the pictures,
but I hide my feelings so no-one knows.
Oh sure my friends all come round,
but I'm in a crowd and on my own.
It's 'cos you're gone now.
But your heart, still remains.
And it'll be here if you come again.
You see, I'd heard the rumours,
I knew before you let me know.
But I didn't believe it,
not you,
No you would not let me go.
Seems I was wrong.
But I love,  love you the same.
And that's the one thing that you can't take away,
Just remember...
If leaving me is easy,
then you know,
coming back is harder...
Oh.
If leaving me is easy,
then you know,
coming back is harder...
Oh.
If leaving me is easy,
then you know,
coming back is harder...
Oh.
If leaving me is easy,
then you know,
coming back is harder...
Oh.
If leaving me is easy,
then you know,
coming back is harder... .



Lamb - Gorecki

If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
Still in my heart this moment
Or it might burst
Could we stay right here
'til the end of time 'til the earth stops turning
Wanna love you until the seas run dry
I've found the one I've waited for


All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
Wanna stay right here
'til the end of time
'til the earth stops turning
Gonna love you 'til the seas run dry
I've found the one I've waited for


The one I've waited for


All I've known
All I've done
All I've felt was leading to this
All I've known
All I've done
All I've felt was leading to this
Wanna stay right here
'Til the end of time 'till the earth stops turning
Gonna love you till the seas run dry
I've found the one I've waited for
The one I've waited for
The one I've waited for
Wanna stay right here
'Til the end of time 'till the earth stops turning
Gonna love you till the seas run dry
I've found the one I've waited for
The one I've waited for
The one I've waited for



Kate Bush - This Woman's Work

Pray God you can cope.
I stand outside this woman's work,
This woman's world.
Ooh, it's hard on the man,
Now his part is over.
Now starts the craft of the father.


I know you have a little life in you yet.
I know you have a lot of strength left.
I know you have a little life in you yet.
I know you have a lot of strength left.


I should be crying, but I just can't let it show.
I should be hoping, but I can't stop thinking


Of all the things I should've said,
That I never said.
All the things we should've done,
That we never did.
All the things I should've given,
But I didn't.


Oh, darling, make it go,
Make it go away.


Give me these moments back.
Give them back to me.
Give me that little kiss.
Give me your hand.


(I know you have a little life in you yet.
I know you have a lot of strength left.
I know you have a little life in you yet.
I know you have a lot of strength left.)


I should be crying, but I just can't let it show.
I should be hoping, but I can't stop thinking


Of all the things we should've said,
That were never said.
All the things we should've done,
That we never did.
All the things that you needed from me.
All the things that you wanted for me.
All the things that I should've given,
But I didn't.


Oh, darling, make it go away.
Just make it go away now.



Faithless - Evergreen

Running with my rain face on
Today I woke up feeling sad
I know that you said,
That one day I would be glad


Oh the choirs of winter birds are calling,
to me and,
All the leaves I came to love
are falling.


Ribbons on evergreen,
owls that pull them apart.
I can hear you singing my funny valentine
Oh you know that breaks my heart.


Choirs of winter birds are calling,
to me and,
All the leaves I came to love...


Oh you know that breaks my heart
Oh you know that breaks my heart.


Running with my rain face on,
no idea of what to say.
No idea of what to do.
In this fear that never goes.
Show a way.
All my dreams for you
All my dreams my dear
All my dreams for you
All my dreams, all my dreams, all my dreams
All my dreams, all my dreams, all my dreams.


All my dreams, all my dreams, all my dreams
All my dreams, all my dreams, all my dreams


Oh you know it breaks my heart.
Choirs of winter birds are calling,
to me and,
All the leaves I came to love,


Oh you know that breaks my heart
Oh you know that breaks my heart
All my dreams for You
Oh you know That breaks my heart



Aimee Mann - Wise Up

It's not
What you thought
When you first began it
You got
What you want
N' you can hardly stand it though,
By now you know
It's not going to stop
It's not going to stop
It's not going to stop
'Til you wise up


You're sure
There's a cure
And you have finally found it
You think
One drink
Will shrink you 'til you're underground
And living down
But it's not going to stop
It's not going to stop
It's not going to stop
'Til you wise up


Prepare a list for what you need
Before you sign away the deed
'Cause it's not going to stop
It's not going to stop
It's not going to stop
'Til you wise up
No, it's not going to stop
'Til you wise up
No, it's not going to stop
So just...give up



Elton John & George Michael - Don't Let The Sun Go Down

I can't light no more of your darkness.
All my pictures seem to fade to black and white.
I'm growing tired and time stands still before me.
Frozen here on the ladder of my life.
It's much too late to save myself from falling.
I took a chance and changed your way of life.
But you misread my meaning when I met you.
Closed the door and left me blinded by the light.

Don't let the sun go down on me yeah.
Although I search myself, it's always someone else I see.
I'd just allow a fragment of your life to wander free.
But losing everything is like the sun going down on me.

(Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Elton John)

I can't find, oh the right romantic line.
But see me once and see the way I feel.
Don't discard me just because you think I mean you harm.
But these cuts I have they need love to help them heal.

Don't let the sun go down on me.
Although I search myself, it's always someone else I see.
I'd just allow a fragment of your life to wander free.
'Cos losin' everything is like the sun going down on me.

Don't let the sun go down on me.
Although I search myself, it's always someone else I see ..yeah.
I'd just allow a fragment of your life to wander free.. baby.
'Cos losing everything is like the sun going down on me.
(Mr. Elton John).



Chris Isaak - Wicked Games

The world was on fire no-one could save me but you
Strange what desire will make foolish people do
I never dreamed that I'd meet somebody like you
I never dreamed that I'd loose somebody like you


No, I don't wanna fall in love
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
No, I don't wanna fall in love
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
With you
With you
(This world is only gonna break your heart)


What a wicked game to play to make me feel this way
What a wicked thing to do to let me dream of you
What a wicked thing to say you never felt this way
What a wicked thing to do to make me dream of you


And I wanna fall in love
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
No, I wanna fall in love
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
With you


The world was on fire no-one could save me but you
Strange what desire will make foolish people do
I never dreamed that I'd love somebody like you
I never dreamed that I'd loose somebody like you


No, I don't wanna fall in love
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
No, I don't wanna fall in love
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
With you
(this world is only gonna break your heart)
With you
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
No, I...
(This world is only gonna break your heart)
(This world is only gonna break your heart)


Nobody loves no-one



Annie Lennox - Cold

Come to me
Run to me
Do and be done with me
(Cold cold cold)
Don't I exist for you
Don't I still live for you
(Cold cold cold)
Everything I possess
Given with tenderness
Wrapped in a ribbon of glass
Time it may take us but God only knows
How I've paid for those things in the past


Dying is easy it's living that scares me to death
I could be so content hearing the sound of your breath
(ohh yeah)
Cold is the colour of crystal the snowlight
That falls from the heavenly skies
Catch me and let me dive under
For I want to swim in the pools of your eyes


I want to be with you baby
Ohhhh Slip me inside of your heart
Don't I belong to you baby
Don't you know that nothing can tear us apart
Come on now come on now come on now
Telling you that
I loved you right from the start...
But the more I want you the less I get
Ain't that just the way things are...


Winter has frozen us
Let love take hold of us
(Cold cold cold)
Now we are shivering
Blue ice is glittering
(Cold cold cold)


Cold is the colour of crystal the snowlight
That falls from the heavenly skies
Catch me and let me dive under
For I want to swim in the pools of your eyes


Don't you know its......Cold
Cold
Cold
Cold
Cold
Cold...
Ohhhhhhh Yeah



Air Supply - All out of love

I'm lying alone with my head on the phone
Thinking of you till it hurts
I know you're hurt too but what else can we do,
tormented and torn apart
I wish I could carry your smile in my heart
For times when my life seems so low
It would make me believe what tomorrow could bring
When today doesn't really know, doesn't really know

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late to say that I was so wrong

I want you to come back and carry me home
Away from these long lonely nights
I'm reaching for you, are you feeling it too
Does the feeling seem oh so right
And what would you say if I called on you now
And said that I can't hold on
There's no easy way, it gets harder each day
Please love me or I'll be gone, I'll be gone...

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late to say that I was so wrong

Oh, what are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late
I know I was so wrong

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late
I know I was so wrong

I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you
I know you were right believing for so long
I'm all out of love, what am I without you?
I can't be too late to say that I was so wrong



Alexander O'neal - If You Were Here Tonight

As the night moves in
Love takes on new meaning
If you were here
You would know what I mean to say
Circumstance leaves me only waiting
For the chance
I only want to love you more ... more
Can't you understand it
Girl you know how much I care
It's not the way I planned it no
If you could only know my feelings
You would know how much I do believe
If you were here tonight


By my side
If you were with me now
When the lights go out
I can not pretend
This bed's too big ohh
For me to be in alone, all alone.
Slow burn light a candle for our love ... love
So we'll always be one to one in love ooh
Can't you understand it
Girl you know how much I care
It's not the way I planned it
No, no no no no
If you could only know my feelings
You would know how much I do believe
If you were here tonight oh right
By my side
If you were with me now

Every night alone I just wait here anticipating
For the day I won't feel this pain baby
Please don't keep me waiting
Come to me
If you were here tonight
Ooh oh girl
Be by my side
If you were with me now
Girl this bed's too big
for me
For me to be in all alone
All alone
(By my side)
Don't keep me waiting baby
If you were with me now
Oh oh ooh hold me girl
all night
Want you for myself
Do me right
Got nobody else
All by myself
Got nobody else
girl this love is true
Please take me home
Be with you tonight
Give our love a light
Do just what you feel
Please don't be a tease
Girl I love you more
You're the one that I adore...

(Ohh ohh oh girl)
(Ohh oh)
(Don't leave me lonely)
(All by myself)
(All alone tonight)
(Girl I'm by myself)



Weekend Players - Jericho

I hear your voice calling out to reach me,
Then all is calm and clear.
I feel no pain when you hold me,
Pull me in and draw me near.
I see your eyes of hazy blues
But oh so clear, sincere and true
And i feel brand new, new, new, new

Come fill my senses up with you
You've turned the jaded into new
Come fill my senses up with you
Love would be senseless without you
Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you

There was a time when love was blind
Love lost and all at sea
Love came in dreams and waves
Came and went away from me
All forsaken
All forlorn
All mistaken
Feel no scorn
And then you pulled me from the darkness
And I see things new, new, new, new

Come fill my senses up with you
You've turned the jaded into new
Come fill my senses up with you
Love would be senseless without you
Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you

Come fill my senses up with you
You've turned the jaded into new
Come fill my senses up with you
Love would be senseless without you
Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you

Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you
Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you
Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you
Come fill my senses up with you
You, you, you, you, you, you



Paul Weller - You Do Something To Me

You do something to me,
something deep inside
I'm hanging on the wire
for a love I'll never find
You do something wonderful
then chase it all away
Mixing my emotions
that throws me back again
Hanging on the wire, yeah
I'm waiting for that change
I'm dancing through the fire,
just to catch a flame
an' feel again

Hanging on the wire, yeah
Said I'm waiting for that change
Oh I'm dancing through the fire,
just to catch a flame
an' feel again

You do something to me
somewhere deep inside
I'm hoping to get close to..
a peace I cannot find
Dancing through the fire
just to catch a flame
Just to get close to,
just close enough
To tell you that.....


You do something to me
something deep inside.



Massive Attack - Teardrop

Love, love is a verb
Love is a doing word
Fearless on my breath
Gentle impulsion
Shakes me makes me lighter
Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire
Fearless on my breath

night, night of my tear
Black flowers blossom
Fearless on my breath
Black flowers blossom
Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire
Fearless on my breath

Water is my eye
Most faithful mirror
Fearless on my breath
Teardrop on the fire of a confession
Fearless on my breath
Most faithful mirror
Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire
Fearless on my breath

You're stumbling a little
You're stumbling a little



Coldplay - In My Place

In my place, in my place
Were lines that I couldn't change
I was lost, oh yeah


I was lost, I was lost
Crossed lines I shouldn't have crossed
I was lost, oh yeah


Yeah, how long must you wait for it?
Yeah, how long must you pay for it?
Yeah, how long must you wait for it?
Oh, for it.


I was scared, I was scared
Tired and underprepared
But I wait for it


And if you go, if you go
Leave me down here on my own
Then I'll wait for you, yeah


Yeah, how long must you wait for it?
Yeah, how long must you pay for it?
Yeah, how long must you wait for it?
Oh, for it.


Please, please, please
Come on and sing to me
To me, me


Come on and sing it out, out, out
Come on and sing it now, now, now
Come on and sing it


In my place, in my place
Were lines that I couldn't change
I was lost, oh yeah

Oh yeah



Sia - Breathe Me
Photobucket
Help, I have done it again
I have been here many times before
Hurt myself again today
And, the worst part is there's no-one else to blame

Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me

Ouch I have lost myself again
Lost myself and I am nowhere to be found,
Yeah I think that I might break
I've lost myself again and I feel unsafe

Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me

Be my friend
Hold me, wrap me up
Unfold me
I am small
I'm needy
Warm me up
And breathe me


Sade - No Ordinary Love

I gave you all the love I got
I gave you more than I could give
I gave you love
I gave you all that I have inside
And you took my love
You took my love

Didn't I tell you
What I believe
Did somebody say that
A love like that won't last
Didn't I give you
All that I've got to give baby

I gave you all the love I got
I gave you more than I could give
I gave you love
I gave you all that I have inside
And you took my love
You took my love

I keep crying
I keep trying for you
There's nothing like you and I baby

This is no ordinary love
No ordinary love
This is no ordinary love
No ordinary love

When you came my way
You brightened every day
With your sweet smile

Didn't I tell you
What I believe
Did somebody say that
A love like that won't last
Didn't I give you
All that I've got to give baby

This is no ordinary love
No ordinary love
This is no ordinary love
No ordinary love
I keep crying
I keep trying for you
There's nothing like you and I baby

This is no ordinary love
No ordinary love
This is no ordinary love
No ordinary love

Keep trying for you
Keep crying for you
Keep flying for you
Keep flying I'm falling

I'm falling

Keep trying for you
Keep crying for you
Keep flying for you
Keep flying I'm falling
I'm falling


Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes

Love i get so lost, sometimes
Days pass and this emptiness fills my heart
When i want to run away
I drive off in my car
But whichever way i go
I come back to the place you are
All my instincts, they return
And the grand facade, so soon will burn
Without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside
In your eyes
The light the heat
In your eyes
I am complete
In your eyes
I see the doorway to a thousand churches
In your eyes
The resolution of all the fruitless searches
In your eyes
I see the light and the heat
In your eyes
Oh, i want to be that complete
I want to touch the light
The heat i see in your eyes
Love, i don't like to see so much pain
So much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
I get so tired of working so hard for our survival
I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive

And all my instincts, they return
And the grand facade, so soon will burn
Without a noise, without my pride
I reach out from the inside
In your eyes
The light the heat
In your eyes
I am complete
In your eyes
I see the doorway to a thousand churches
In your eyes
The resolution of all the fruitless searches
In your eyes
I see the light and the heat
In your eyes
Oh, i want to be that complete
I want to touch the light,
The heat i see in your eyes
In your eyes in your eyes
In your eyes in your eyes
In your eyes in your eyes


U2 - One

Is it getting better?
Or do you feel the same?
Will it make it easier on you now?
You got someone to blame
You say
One love
One life
When it's one need
In the night
One love
We get to share it
Leaves you baby if you
Don't care for it

Did I disappoint you?
Or leave a bad taste in your mouth?
You act like you never had love
And you want me to go without
Well it's
Too late
Tonight
To drag the past out into the light
We're one, but we're not the same
We get to
Carry each other
Carry each other
One

Have you come here for forgiveness?
Have you come to raise the dead?
Have you come here to play Jesus?
To the lepers in your head
Did I ask too much?
More than a lot.
You gave me nothing,
Now it's all I got
We're one
But we're not the same
Well we
Hurt each other
Then we do it again
You say
Love is a temple
Love a higher law
Love is a temple
Love the higher law
You ask me to enter
But then you make me crawl
And I can't be holding on
To what you got
When all you got is hurt

One love
One blood
One life
You got to do what you should
One life
With each other
Sisters
Brothers
One life
But we're not the same
We get to
Carry each other
Carry each other

One

One


Blink 182 - Miss You


Hello there, the angel from my nightmare,
The shadow in the background of the morgue,
The unsuspecting victim of darkness in the valley
We can live like Jack and Sally if we want
Where you can always find me
And we'll have Halloween on Christmas
And in the night we'll wish this never ends
We'll wish this never ends
(I miss you)
(I miss you)

Where are you and I'm so sorry
I cannot sleep, I cannot dream tonight
I need somebody and always
This sick strange darkness
Comes creeping on so haunting every time
And as I stared I counted
The webs from all the spiders
Catching things and eating their insides
Like indecision to call you
And hear your voice of treason
Will you come home and stop this pain tonight
Stop this pain tonight

Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you)
Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you)

Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you)
Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you)
Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you)
Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you)

(I miss you, miss you)
(I miss you, miss you)
(I miss you, miss you) (I miss you, miss you)


Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band - We've Got Tonight


I know it's late,
I know you're weary
I know your plans
don't include me
Still here we are,
both of us lonely
Longing for shelter
from all that we see
Why should we worry,
no one will care girl
Look at the stars
so far away
We've got tonight,
who needs tomorrow?
We've got tonight babe
Why don' you stay?

Deep in my soul,
I've been so lonely
All of my hopes,
fading away
I've longed for love,
like everyone else does
I know I'll keep searching,
even after today
So there it is girl,
I've said it all now
And here we are babe,
what do you say?
We've got tonight,
who needs tomorrow?
We've got tonight babe
Why don't you stay?

I know it's late,
I know you're weary (weary)
I know your plans
don't include me
Still here we are,
both of us lonely (lonely)
both of us lonely (lonely)

We've got tonight, (We've got tonight)
who needs tomorrow?
Let's make it last,
let's find a way
Turn out the light, (We've got tonight)
come take my hand now
We've got tonight babe
Why don't you stay?

We've got tonight,
who needs tomorrow? (who needs tomorrow?)
Let's make it last,
let's find a way
Turn out the light,
come take my hand now
We've got tonight babe
Why don't you stay?

We've got tonight,
who needs tomorrow?
Let's make it last,
let's find a way
Turn out the light,
come take my hand now
We've got tonight babe
Why don't you stay?
Ohh.. Why don't you stay?


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 on: Friday, 04, June, 2010, 05:59:51 AM 
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 on: Sunday, 23, May, 2010, 11:24:31 AM 
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SMF reported the forum was out of date and some bug fixes and some security issues have been addressed  ... "Upgrade in minutes" they said.

 Angry Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Nearly 2 hours later and after a quick tutorial in php script I've managed to get back.

I have absolutely no idea what has changed, and truth be known, I would have settled for the buggy, holes in security version back again just 20 mins ago.

 10 
 on: Sunday, 23, May, 2010, 06:28:12 AM 
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We're in a full blown heatwave and I'm battling to keep my adults and babies cool. I also have some early hatchlings from the batch of eggs laid by Gilbit during the early hours of May 9th.  Luckily I stated on the ebay listing that they could start to hatch from the 23rd so my estimation wasn't too far out. Some people were prepared, but, quite understandably, there have been people caught short and they don't have their BBS (Baby Brine Shrimp) hatchery in full production yet.

Don't Panic

The hatchling larvae don't usually eat for between 24 and 36 hours after hatching due to the contents of their own egg sack still being in their tummys, so you have time to get the hatchery sorted.

Some people have asked me about feeding BBS to larvae and told me they would rather  feed them with white worm or other almost microscopic nematodes.  All I can say is I've had great success myself using BBS. It's what I was advised to feed them on by the very knowledgeable folk on the caudata.org forum. I have said elsewhere that I keep a micro-worm culture running in case my hatchery fails for whatever reason and I do harvest them and feed them to my larvae from time to time as a supplement. However, BBS are the perfect size for tiny axolotls and freshly hatched BBS do have a highly nutritious egg sac which gives the axolotl larvae a fantastic, and in the opinion of many, the best possible starter food.

Another person recently suggested that salt introduced to the axolotl larvae through BBS could be bad for them. Let me please be very clear here, I do not feed my larvae on BBS until they have been cleaned. Obviously I cannot possibly eliminate every trace of salt.

I harvest my shrimp from the hatchery using a capillary tube as shown on the video in the care sheet thread

I put the BBS I've harvested into a 2 litre container with 1 litre of dechlorinated water. There is hardly any salt water introduced into the fresh water, just a thick orange jelly like mass of BBS. These are stirred into the fresh water and allowed to re-settle. They soon form into a thick orange cloud which can be sucked up with a plastic pipette and dropped right where they are wanted. I don't believe the axolotl larvae are exposed to much salt at all.

My advice is unreserved,  feed your axolotl larvae and babies on BBS.

 

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